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Belt Issues

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:47 am
by Eazy
I'm working on a Rattler 50.

Anyone had any problems with the belts slipping?

It seems to die at about 27 and unless you come to a complete stop its slow as hell.

I'm almost positive its a belt, I just want to know how common of an issue this is.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:50 pm
by Hugo
Have you opened up the variator cover to check the belt's condition?

Re: Belt Issues

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:34 pm
by mattgordon
Eazy wrote:I'm working on a Rattler 50.

Anyone had any problems with the belts slipping?

It seems to die at about 27 and unless you come to a complete stop its slow as hell.

I'm almost positive its a belt, I just want to know how common of an issue this is.
I've owned a number of twist-n-go scooters...still do. I've NEVER heard of any belt slipping. Ever. Clutch? Maybe. Belt...no. What is the actual symptom, is it dying at 27 mph? Maybe a bit more specific on your issue, we can help to pinpoint but I've never heard of a slipping belt....

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:24 pm
by nissanman
Good points Matt... based on what I know of your problem it's got to be a bad wiffle pin actuator :x I think we need a better description to really help you out.

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:20 pm
by ericalm
How many miles on your scooter?

Odds are more likely it's a variator or clutch issue. But the symptoms can also describe a clogged air filter and a few other issues.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:32 pm
by Eazy
13g and 5g rollers(why? I don't know), both sets from MRP, both sets nice and flatted.

And a super stiff clutch spring.

A lot was wrong in there. Now time to fix it.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:39 am
by nissanman
13g + 5g = 9g (avg). Weird, that's stock for a 110. Of course I'm assuming 3 of each. Sounds like you have to set it up for your riding to even figure out what if anything is wrong. May not be the wiffle pin after all :roll:

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:00 pm
by KABanshee
What are you running for muffler bearings?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:25 pm
by nissanman
Hopefully magnetic brass muffler bearings with the oilite coating for reducing debris in the exhaust flow with a minimum ammount of friction. Those add at least 2HP :lol:

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:21 pm
by Eazy
KABanshee wrote:What are you running for muffler bearings?
Mad TYTE JDM Bearings

and ultra light blinker fluid.

thing flys like a bat out of hell.

I eat 110s for breakfast

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:42 pm
by KABanshee
nissanman wrote:Hopefully magnetic brass muffler bearings with the oilite coating for reducing debris in the exhaust flow with a minimum ammount of friction. Those add at least 2HP :lol:


Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Just routinely maintenance that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.

Eazy wrote:Mad TYTE JDM Bearings

and ultra light blinker fluid.

thing flys like a bat out of hell.

I eat 110s for breakfast
:lol:

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:50 pm
by nissanman
My scooter just hit a water buffalo... can I borrow your towel?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:33 pm
by brimstone
nissanman wrote:My scooter just hit a water buffalo... can I borrow your towel?



:rofl:

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:42 am
by KABanshee
nissanman wrote:My scooter just hit a water buffalo... can I borrow your towel?
Nice :lol:

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:02 am
by Eazy
Stock clutch spring, 5g rollers, and the carb jetted to where it should be.

Thing runs like a champ now, could probably use some heavier rollers but it will work for the time being.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 1:56 pm
by nissanman
Shouldn't you have to pass a test or something before you're allowed to modify any motor vehicle? The ammount of hacks out there scare me :shock: My all time favorites are the 10ga amplifier power wire that people like to run by the hinge of their hood on a car, then through the door jamb when they install a stereo. Um, not good. Just drill the hole where it belongs or have a professional do it.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 3:56 pm
by Eazy
nissanman wrote:Shouldn't you have to pass a test or something before you're allowed to modify any motor vehicle? The ammount of hacks out there scare me :shock: My all time favorites are the 10ga amplifier power wire that people like to run by the hinge of their hood on a car, then through the door jamb when they install a stereo. Um, not good. Just drill the hole where it belongs or have a professional do it.
you bashing on me?

Or is this just directed in general?

Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:04 pm
by nissanman
Not you... the person who had 5g and 13g weights in there to begin with. You're correcting the issues, that makes you the solution not the issue. Unless you did the car stereo wire as decribed :oops:

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 2:14 am
by Eazy
nissanman wrote:Not you... the person who had 5g and 13g weights in there to begin with. You're correcting the issues, that makes you the solution not the issue. Unless you did the car stereo wire as decribed :oops:
I thought so, just wanted to make sure.

As a side note. I installed car stereos for a few years and I once saw an 0ga over the fender of a car. It was terrible.

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:23 am
by Racenut
Spend enough time on internet forums and it doesn't seem to matter if it's cars, scooters or basic home repair. There are an awful lot of people out there who shouldn't be allowed to touch the tool box :D

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:40 am
by mattgordon
Racenut wrote:Spend enough time on internet forums and it doesn't seem to matter if it's cars, scooters or basic home repair. There are an awful lot of people out there who shouldn't be allowed to touch the tool box :D
+1 :P