Pinasco 21 mm Carb Upgrade (Genuine Stella 4T) - question

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Pinasco 21 mm Carb Upgrade (Genuine Stella 4T) - question

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Hey guys, I'm new on this forum and I just got my 2012 Stella 4t manual 3 days ago.

Anywho, mine already came with the Pinasco Performance Exhaust (150cc, 4-stroke, Black); Stella http://www.scooterworks.com/pinasco-per ... S67n5TF-Vs

It runs great and it sounds awesome... anyway, I was thinking about adding the Pinasco 21 mm Carb Upgrade (Genuine Stella 4T) http://www.scooterworks.com/pinasco-21- ... S67upTF-Vs

what do you guys think? does anyone here has it? its suppose to be really good together, that's why I'm asking here...

please, let me know your guys thoughts!

thanks!
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I've heard nothing but horror stories about the Pinasco 21mm carb.

Get this instead http://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/produ ... +_p1770090
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What kind of horror stories?

Also, wow, that Polini carb you posted is much cheaper. Any reviews on that one?
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The Pinasco carb is simply a DellOrto PHBG 21mm carb, "AD" form factor. The "A" means clamp-type, the "D" means that the mixture adjustments are on the right side of the carb.

It has an AN-type atomizer and atomizer plate. AN atomizers are for four-stroke engines. Fuel float is 5 grams, which is proper for a 4-stroke application. The main and choke jets weren't too bad, but the low-speed jet was a bit too small, IIRC.

The big problem is that the fitted throttle slide is a #30. This slide is meant for smaller engines (sub-100cc) or PHBG carburetors with bores of 18mm or less in order to create enough vacuum to draw fuel. It's a bit too aggressive for a 150cc engine. A #40 throttle slide would be a better fit for this application.

I documented all the appropriate parts someplace. You can actually order all the bits to build up an identical carb (less the fancy Pinasco sticker and box) for about $140 plus shipping from the moped parts supplier Treatland. If you're feeling adventurous, I'll post the list and you can roll your own.


Protip: What's with the "S" and "D" on DellOrtos? The "S" stands for "sinistra", which is Italian for "left". The "D" is for "diritto", which is Italian for "right".
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Or you could go with the SIP "kit", that though a bit of work to fit, works GREAT!
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viney266 wrote:Or you could go with the SIP "kit", that through a bit of work to fit, works GREAT!
I could, but I'm a stubborn bastard and I can set up a carburetor. A PHBG has a ton of setup options and they're no worse to tune than anything from the SI product line. :wink:

Plus, there's a handy and rather technical setup guide for them.
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And don't forget to buy a selection of main jets with the carburetor, I can guarantee that you will need to swap jets.
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Re: Pinasco 21 mm Carb Upgrade (Genuine Stella 4T) - question

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Reviving this post with the hopes that I can get some feedback. I found links to old post but they are not valid anymore, hence the post.
For reference: Stella 150cc 4T (basically stock)

Looking to get just a little bit more w/o killing the poor engine. It's a fun ride and it's my daily commuter in NYC. Looking into upgrading carbs and exhaust, I wouldn't mind doing it in stages. First exhaust: not sure which one but here are my choices:

Giannelli, Pinasco Symphony, GPR or Sito Plus... All seem to be good from what I've gathered.

As for Carbs, Pinasco 21mm are discontinued, but I read in this thread that its simply a DellOrto PHBG 21mm carb, AD. Anyone have the DellOrto one? Impressions? What were the jets, idle and air mixtures setting so I have a basis to start with.. ?

No more big bore kits around unfortunately, or either the SIP 200cc plug & play. Anyone have any info to share, I'll appreciate it a bunch.

Lastly, stellaspeed forum is dead but was wondering if anyone archived the good stuff?

Happy New Years and thanks in advance.

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