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When to do 1st oil change?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:50 am
by ruthjenkins
I'm at 268 miles and haven't changed my oil yet. The dealer said 300 but I think the manual is written in km and that converts to 180 miles...when have you guys been doing the first oil change???

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:31 pm
by LDB
I don't have a Buddy because I bought a Vino125 a few weeks before learning about the Buddy. Had I known I'd have waited but that's a different thread. Anyway, for any new engine, my first change is 50-75 miles. I think most of the initial wear has happened by then and it gets the metal particles out. It may be overkill but I know it doesn't hurt anything.

self oil changer?

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:24 pm
by ruthjenkins
do you change the oil yourself or do you take it in? i will be taking it in for its first oil change and all future ones...

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:07 am
by mlstephens
I'm following the owners manual, and changing at 300km, just to be on the safe side. Will get to it this weekend; maybe if I have time will shoot photos and post.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:08 am
by Beamie
LDB wrote:I don't have a Buddy because I bought a Vino125 a few weeks before learning about the Buddy. Had I known I'd have waited but that's a different thread. Anyway, for any new engine, my first change is 50-75 miles. I think most of the initial wear has happened by then and it gets the metal particles out. It may be overkill but I know it doesn't hurt anything.

It's not about wear; it's about machining crud that the manufacturer left in there.

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:07 am
by LDB
That's what I meant when I said getting the metal particles out. I don't do my own service. I leave that to the (hopefully) professionals.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:26 pm
by ellen
I changed the oil at 86 miles. Not only did I see the usual metal flakes. But there were a few small pieces of thread about 1 inch long! 3 where floating and one was tangled up in the drain spring :wtf: . I have no clue what that was from.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:33 pm
by Blackeyes24
I was wondering about this too because one of the guys in the shop at my dealer also told me 300 miles. I said to him I thought it was km and he told me it didnt make a difference. I dont want to void my warranty before it even starts. I think I might do what the book says. I wish it was more though so I had time to get used to the idea of driving it down to Miami. After the first service I am finding a mechanic in my area.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:48 pm
by mlstephens
The manual says 300km. The sticker on the back of the headset says 500km. I changed motor and gear oil at 300km just to be on the safe side. I wouldn't wait any longer than 500km, lest you risk voiding warranty. 500km=310miles.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:20 pm
by LDB
Blackeyes24 wrote:After the first service I am finding a mechanic in my area.
You aren't required to go to the dealer for any of your services. As long as you have receipts showing the service was done OR receipts showing you bought the appropriate materials to do the service yourself at appropriate intervals you are fine. There is lots of talk about "voiding warranties" and it just doesn't happen except in very rare circumstances and then it isn't the entire warranty it's only a small part of it. That's the law in the U.S. and you can look up the Magnusson Moss Act if you want to know more.

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:27 pm
by mlstephens
LDB wrote:
Blackeyes24 wrote:After the first service I am finding a mechanic in my area.
There is lots of talk about "voiding warranties" and it just doesn't happen except in very rare circumstances and then it isn't the entire warranty it's only a small part of it.
The key is to adhere to the schedule, and have receipts of proof of the work/parts.