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Let us know how that goes. Before you buy, you might want to go read this article over on Motor Scooter Guide. I was not aware that Honda beefed up the alternator with the 2004 model. Does the example you are looking at have ABS brakes?Syd wrote:Thanks for the replies, folks! There's a '04 Reflex nearby. I may have to see how my 34" inseam fits.
It would depend on miles, condition, price and so on, but all other things being equal, I would want the heftier alternator in case I decided to add heated grips or an accessory outlet for a heated vest or something. Just my $0.02 worth.Syd wrote:Thanks, jrsjr, I'll look at that. I don't know anything except that it's a 2004. There is a 2002 also nearby, too. 2004 over the 2002?
I've owned both and because of their different styling, it's basically an apples and oranges question. The Helix is decidedly old school but it does have that unique funky look that appeals to a lot of folks. The Reflex is more motorcycle than scooter and for me it was a slightly better more comfortable fit (I have a 32" inseam). But the bottom line is they're both carbureted engines. And, in spite of using additives such as Seafoam and Stabil when storing them during the winter plus keeping the fuel tanks full, I had carburetor problems with both. As such, I'm now a firm believer in fuel injected engines. As such, I'll stick with my fuel injected Hooligan 170i and Buddy 170i. No, they're not Interstate or Freeway capable but IMHO neither is the Helix or Reflex.Syd wrote:I'm looking for a second scoot, and to be honest a well priced GT or GTS would be first choice, followed by an Elite 250. But. I see quite a few Helices and Reflexes but few Elites. So here's my question:
All other things equal, which would you prefer, a Helix or a Reflex?
With luck someone will ride a Helix/Reflex to Coolidge this Saturday and I can sneak a sit.JohnKiniston wrote:I'd go Reflex for the larger rear tire.
.Yes, there is the large frame Vespa. Who doesn't like that look? I've always felt the GT200 was the real bargain on the used market. A well built carbed scooter with plenty of power, and can often be found in the $2000-$2500 range with low to moderate mileage. It has now been 5 years since the GTS250ie was replaced by the 300 which means that there are more bargains in used GTS all the time. The 250 engine has the same horsepower rating as the 300 engine, and has the same top speed. I'd say it gave away nothing to it's newer sister, until the ABS/ASR version of the 300 came out this year. You could certainly do a lot worse than a GT/GTS.Syd wrote:I'm looking for a second scoot, and to be honest a well priced GT or GTS would be first choice, followed by an Elite 250.
I have an account that I rarely use, but I'll take a look. Thanks!JohnKiniston wrote:Are you on Facebook? I saw Dean offering a GT and a GTS for fairly cheap on the Phoenix United scooter club group recently.
The Kelly Bluebook average retail (excellent condition) for an '05 GT200 in the Phoenix area is $2460. That doesn't mean that is what you will see as an asking price on the next CL listing of course, but it does mean that $3200 is outside the ballpark. Don't hesitate to look a little further afield if you don't see what you want in town. It isn't difficult to pick up a bike using a rental trailer or whatever.Syd wrote:there are the occasional GT / GTSs on CL, but in year-round riding Phoenix, the prices are above my comfort level. For Example, $3200 for an '05 GT seems tooo high.
Agreed. I'm even watching SDG's I've got too many scoots thread on MV!Dooglas wrote:The Kelly Bluebook average retail (excellent condition) for an '05 GT200 in the Phoenix area is $2460. That doesn't mean that is what you will see as an asking price on the next CL listing of course, but it does mean that $3200 is outside the ballpark. Don't hesitate to look a little further afield if you don't see what you want in town. It isn't difficult to pick up a bike using a rental trailer or whatever.Syd wrote:there are the occasional GT / GTSs on CL, but in year-round riding Phoenix, the prices are above my comfort level. For Example, $3200 for an '05 GT seems tooo high.
Oh, is he clearing out scooters?Syd wrote:Agreed. I'm even watching SDG's I've got too many scoots thread on MV!Dooglas wrote:The Kelly Bluebook average retail (excellent condition) for an '05 GT200 in the Phoenix area is $2460. That doesn't mean that is what you will see as an asking price on the next CL listing of course, but it does mean that $3200 is outside the ballpark. Don't hesitate to look a little further afield if you don't see what you want in town. It isn't difficult to pick up a bike using a rental trailer or whatever.Syd wrote:there are the occasional GT / GTSs on CL, but in year-round riding Phoenix, the prices are above my comfort level. For Example, $3200 for an '05 GT seems tooo high.
He mentioned that with 20 scoots he couldn't fit a vintage car in the garage!ericalm wrote:Oh, is he clearing out scooters?Syd wrote:Agreed. I'm even watching SDG's I've got too many scoots thread on MV!Dooglas wrote: The Kelly Bluebook average retail (excellent condition) for an '05 GT200 in the Phoenix area is $2460. That doesn't mean that is what you will see as an asking price on the next CL listing of course, but it does mean that $3200 is outside the ballpark. Don't hesitate to look a little further afield if you don't see what you want in town. It isn't difficult to pick up a bike using a rental trailer or whatever.
Ah, the fine and subtle art of the humblebrag.Syd wrote:He mentioned that with 20 scoots he couldn't fit a vintage car in the garage!ericalm wrote:Oh, is he clearing out scooters?Syd wrote:Agreed. I'm even watching SDG's I've got too many scoots thread on MV!
