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Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:16 am

Hello all: I spend time over on Modern Vespa and ADV Rider under the same user name. I have two scooters: 1985 Honda Elite 250 and 2012 Vespa GTS 300.
My good friend is in the market for a Buddy so we've done some lurking here, to learn stuff about Buddys, and I think she's made a good choice.
Could I get your opinions on this:

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/6048627276.html

I hope it is not in poor form to drop in and immediately ask about a scooter for sale.
In any case we are in Sacramento so any leads on nice Buddys in the area are welcome. She prefers baby blue, seafoam or pink.

Thank you all!
Liz

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:28 am

Looks clean. I'd ask about the service records and see if you could test ride it.

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:05 am

Are the checkered stripes an add on? Does anyone know if they came on this model as an option from Genuine?

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:48 am

Stripes added on. Not an option from Genuine.

Black head of scooter is not-stock. Stock Genuine would match the "seafoam" green paint on the rest of the scooter.

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:06 am

Thanks for pointing that out. I consider that a red flag for a scooter with under 1000 miles. I think we will keep looking.

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:06 am

Purzell wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I consider that a red flag for a scooter with under 1000 miles. I think we will keep looking.

I agree, take care with this one.

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:07 am

Syd wrote:
Purzell wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I consider that a red flag for a scooter with under 1000 miles. I think we will keep looking.
I agree, take care with this one.

How about this one? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/6055340920.html

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:30 am

I have determined this to be from the same seller, a dealer Mr. Scooter. This one looks like it's been down on the side, and my friend doesn't like the color anyhow, so we'll keep looking.
Our local dealer has a seafoam Buddy 125 she likes, brand new, no special deal, but we might go check it out over the weekend. I don't see many used Buddys around here, and I spend alot, honestly too much time looking at scooters on Craigslist.

skipper20 · Post by **skipper20** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:27 pm

Purzell wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I consider that a red flag for a scooter with under 1000 miles. I think we will keep looking.

I don't see it as a red flag. Yes, the checkers and the black paint on the headlight housing, which should be seafoam green, are customized but they look to be professionally done. To me, it makes for a nice contrast. I like it! The 964 miles are a plus and the seller says it's been serviced. If it were me, I'd check it out and ask to see the service records. Test ride it too if that's possible. If you like it, make an offer. The asking price is a bit spendy but still quite a bit less than new and again, 964 miles. If it has indeed been serviced and it looks new, it may be something you should seriously consider. The 170i fuel injected engine, without the hassle of a carburetor if you're not into doing your own wrenching, is a definite plus.

Bill in Seattle but currently wintering in Tucson (till 3/30)
'15 170i Hooligan Titanium (AZ scoot)

Wertles · Post by **Wertles** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:01 pm

I also do not see this as a red flag. Most scooters here have a little something done to them to make it their own. I do agree that the price is on the high side. For comparison, I picked up my 2014 170i with 2000 miles for $1200 but I also bought it in the middle of a snow storm. That's a great time to buy these things so take your perfect, warm and sunny weather California and stick it where the sun don't shine! (For those who don't know, that would be Rochester, NY. Honestly California, stick your perfect weather here.)

The second scooter is definitely overpriced for the miles and condition.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:46 pm

Purzell wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I consider that a red flag for a scooter with under 1000 miles. I think we will keep looking.

I agree with you and Syd on this one. I also consider this a red flag. Something undisclosed has been done to this scooter and who knows what else - or why!

MYSCTR · Post by **MYSCTR** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:57 am

Notice the black rear rack - all this needs is the black out kit to finish the look. No red flags here. A personalized scoot. If unsure take it to your local dealer on a test ride and have them look at it. Just set this up in advance so they know you are coming by. They may even know its history. Good luck with your/her search! The weather is about to be perfect for scooter riding !

cummingsjc · Post by **cummingsjc** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:51 am

If the Buddy 170 had been dropped and needed repair it probably wouldn't have been the upper plastic that was needing to be replaced. Normally, drop damage would be to the side of the front windshield, around the sides where the front wheel piece joins to the leg shield piece, or damage to the rear, side body panels. Also, oftentimes drops bend the brake levers. If this one had a significant enough drop to warrant replacing the top plastic there would be multiple other problems with the bodywork.

Personally, I would go see it in person, ask about the history of the bike, take it for a spin, then offer them around $1500-1800 and buy it for around $2000.

skipper20 · Post by **skipper20** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:18 am

cummingsjc wrote:If the Buddy 170 had been dropped and needed repair it probably wouldn't have been the upper plastic that was needing to be replaced. Normally, drop damage would be to the side of the front windshield, around the sides where the front wheel piece joins to the leg shield piece, or damage to the rear, side body panels. Also, oftentimes drops bend the brake levers. If this one had a significant enough drop to warrant replacing the top plastic there would be multiple other problems with the bodywork.

Personally, I would go see it in person, ask about the history of the bike, take it for a spin, then offer them around $1500-1800 and buy it for around $2000.

As far as the drop damage is concerned, I thought she was referring to the 2nd scooter in the 2nd CL link (where her friend didn't like the color) but now it's impossible to tell as both listings have been flagged for removal. Interesting since they were both by the same seller. I wonder if the chatter on this forum lead to their removal. I guess we'll never know.

Bill in Seattle but currently wintering in Tucson (till 3/30)
'15 170i Hooligan Titanium (AZ scoot)

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:05 am

Maybe so as it is a dealer posting in the By Owner section.
I ender up texting the seller (their preference) and they never replied so...moving on,

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:56 pm

Well we found two more Buddys in the general area and both sellers have requested contact through email, but never reply although the ads are still up.
Craigslist flakiness is tough to handle.

I have gotten some conversation going regarding this one:
Https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/6062060495.html

He says the registration isn't current but hasn't clarified if it's non-op. Also, it has paint dripped on the seat. Oil was changed at 1500 miles.

Thoughts?

Wertles · Post by **Wertles** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:04 pm

Looks like a fine scooter. I wouldn't pay more than 1900-2000 for it though. As far as the paint on the seat, it will either clean up easily, wear off or if it bothers you enough, spend $105 for a new one. I would still change the engine oil and filter and the gear oil but that's just me. It's probably more than fine for a while more.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:28 pm

That looks great, I like the color. Hope you're able to work out a deal with the seller.

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:40 am

I really like the color too, but my friend has decided to purchase a brand new Seafoam 125 for herself. Her reason includes the warranty, dealer prep makes sure it's all good, she prefers the option of the kick start. Where we live it is very flat and I think this will be perfect for her. She can afford to buy brand-new and likes the peace of mind that will come with it. So I appreciate everyone's help on this journey and look forward to helping her get on her first scooter, and having a new riding buddy!

Post by **jrsjr** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:10 am

Purzell wrote:I really like the color too, but my friend has decided to purchase a brand new Seafoam 125 for herself. Her reason includes the warranty, dealer prep makes sure it's all good, she prefers the option of the kick start. Where we live it is very flat and I think this will be perfect for her. She can afford to buy brand-new and likes the peace of mind that will come with it. So I appreciate everyone's help on this journey and look forward to helping her get on her first scooter, and having a new riding buddy!

Sounds like a well thought-through decision. Happy Scootering to your friend. Allow me to suggest that they join Modern Buddy and share their experiences.

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:33 am

Purzell wrote:I really like the color too, but my friend has decided to purchase a brand new Seafoam 125 for herself. Her reason includes the warranty, dealer prep makes sure it's all good, she prefers the option of the kick start. Where we live it is very flat and I think this will be perfect for her. She can afford to buy brand-new and likes the peace of mind that will come with it. So I appreciate everyone's help on this journey and look forward to helping her get on her first scooter, and having a new riding buddy!

I still thnk a Buddy 125 is the best bang for the buck. Few people have had to use their warranty but it does give you piece of mind. "Hey if it breaks...they fix it". Half of peace of mind is the peace part, good scooter backed up well.

I like the seafoam color, I had an 09 for a while. Post some photos , send your friend to MB and have fun!

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:52 am

Our dealer has the Buddy on the floor but has to order in all the accessories my friend wants: crash bars, top box, cupholder (?), front rack. So as soon as she has it I will post up some pics for her. She's not much of a forum person, but I am and if anything comes up with it I will probably be back here looking for guidance for her.
Most importantly she will be taking the MSF course and they told us she can use her Buddy which is great.

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:11 am

We brought home the Buddy 125 on Saturday and...surprise...after a weekend of joy riding, now her partner wants the matte black 170i that was on the showroom floor when we got there. I predict another scooter purchase in a month or so.
I enjoy handing out the Kool Aid, y'all understand.

cummingsjc · Post by **cummingsjc** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:30 am

Purzell wrote:We brought home the Buddy 125 on Saturday and...surprise...after a weekend of joy riding, now her partner wants the matte black 170i that was on the showroom floor when we got there. I predict another scooter purchase in a month or so.
I enjoy handing out the Kool Aid, y'all understand.

For folks with a "significant someone" in their lives, scooters should always be bought in pairs. It never fails that you partner/spouse/etc will catch the bug after seeing the joy of riding. Dealers should catch on to this and give a two scooter discount!

Purzell · Post by **Purzell** » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:19 am

Does anyone know if the Buddy Eclipse is still available? Does Genuine put on their website when they come out with a special edition scooter?

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