Electric starts are for one legged people and wussies!bluezurich wrote:Ah the kickstart, a hallmark and unfortunately a vestige of scooterdom. The only way to start IMHO.
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Yes, that's my dealer (and they are great). They are struggling because when scooter sales exploded in 2008, they essentially sold through most of their 2008's by June of that year. In 2009, they bought a TON of product, just to see the market get soft.Lovelandstella wrote:
also, Anachronism and I are probably talking about the same scooter dealer (prices wise)
Anachronism, is it this one? so it may not be "dealers across the nation are doing this- I suppose it could be just one? i dunno.
full disclosure- I did not buy my 4t from that dealer- even though I really wanted to. they are just too far away from me in "Northern Colorado".
When I bought my Stella in September 2009, they had 50 new 2009 Stellas available. That sucks.
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Sportique (Denver & other CO. cities) is listing 2009 Stellas for $3,800 on their website - thats $200 over MSRPScootLemont wrote:on a related note... as I have been surfing the web, sending some emails & made a couple calls for stellas for sale, it appears that dealers in large cities are asking full list price for the last of the 2T Stellas (end of an era, last chance to own a real vintage design kind of attitude) and the dealers farther away from major cities are discounting the remaining 2T Stellas they have left (I assume because they feel they have more interest on the 4T from customers)
while the dealer in Neenah WI (the sticks, more or less) has a 2009 with 12 miles (their demo unit) w/ full warranty for $2,500
I didnt make the drive to Chicago but on the phone, the guy at Scooterworks (Chicago) gave me the impression that they were not dealing on their remaining 2T Stellas because they are the last of their kind.... so I am not planing on making the drive to see them.
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I wasn't knocking Neenah & maybe calling it the sticks is an over simplificationjmkjr72 wrote:neenah is not out in the sticks
the fox valley has a large popultaion and in fact he is only about 20 miles away from another genuine dealer
but also andy is now leaning more towards motorcycles and not doing any where near as many scooters
My point was just that dealers in smaller areas (Neenah is in Winnebago County with a population of 162,000) seem to be dealing, while dealers in Chicago (Cook county population 5,200,000) & Denver (Denver County 598,000) seem to feel they are likely to find a few people to buy their remaining 2T Stellas at list (or above) because they are buying into the "end of an era" thing.
This premise could be false.... and if the Neenah dealer is backing away from scooters a little, that could be the reason for the discount.
Hey... I dont know what the dealers are really thinking, but its a safe bet that you are more likely to find a customer to pay list price for a Stella in Chicago, than you would be to find one in a less populated area.
For the record... I LOVE the sticks - I have 8 acres of woods & a small home about a mile from Lake Petenwell - yep... I am one of those F.I.B.s who drive from IL to WI several weekends a year to get away from the Chicago area & ride ATVs, Snowmobiles & go boating
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neenah is actauly part of a metro area neenah mensha appleton oshkosh(the fox valley) that has a popultions of almost 360000 and its actauly right on the border of 3 counties calumet wineabago outagamie maybe a little larger then you think its actualy larger then the green bay areaScootLemont wrote:I wasn't knocking Neenah & maybe calling it the sticks is an over simplificationjmkjr72 wrote:neenah is not out in the sticks
the fox valley has a large popultaion and in fact he is only about 20 miles away from another genuine dealer
but also andy is now leaning more towards motorcycles and not doing any where near as many scooters
My point was just that dealers in smaller areas (Neenah is in Winnebago County with a population of 162,000) seem to be dealing, while dealers in Chicago (Cook county population 5,200,000) & Denver (Denver County 598,000) seem to feel they are likely to find a few people to buy their remaining 2T Stellas at list (or above) because they are buying into the "end of an era" thing.
This premise could be false.... and if the Neenah dealer is backing away from scooters a little, that could be the reason for the discount.
Hey... I dont know what the dealers are really thinking, but its a safe bet that you are more likely to find a customer to pay list price for a Stella in Chicago, than you would be to find one in a less populated area.
For the record... I LOVE the sticks - I have 8 acres of woods & a small home about a mile from Lake Petenwell - yep... I am one of those F.I.B.s who drive from IL to WI several weekends a year to get away from the Chicago area & ride ATVs, Snowmobiles & go boating
the only time we love the fibs is when they are spending money up here other wise you guys just drive us crazy on the road
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jmkjr72 wrote: neenah is actauly part of a metro area neenah mensha appleton oshkosh(the fox valley)
Come on...admit it...they just pulled a handfull of Scrabble tiles out of the box to get those names!
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On sportique's front page they have a link to their sales prices. They are NOT trying to sell 2t's at $3800, rather $2900.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/misc/spring10.html
Its also worth noting that $2900 is an out the door price after dealer prep.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/misc/spring10.html
Its also worth noting that $2900 is an out the door price after dealer prep.
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Under new scooters....Anachronism wrote:On sportique's front page they have a link to their sales prices. They are NOT trying to sell 2t's at $3800, rather $2900.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/misc/spring10.html
Its also worth noting that $2900 is an out the door price after dealer prep.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/index. ... n&Itemid=8
Stella 150cc 2t $3,800
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And then with the letters that were left over, they named their county roadsBuddyRaton wrote:Come on...admit it...they just pulled a handfull of Scrabble tiles out of the box to get those names!jmkjr72 wrote: neenah is actauly part of a metro area neenah mensha appleton oshkosh(the fox valley)
When I go to the lake I take C to Z
and if you are ever in Ontario WI stop by Wildcat Mountain State Park - just take V to P go left on Z Right on ZZ - if you come to F, you went the wrong way. (not kidding)
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Not quite out the door... its + tax but Denver is only 3.62 right? Chicago is something like 8%Anachronism wrote:On sportique's front page they have a link to their sales prices. They are NOT trying to sell 2t's at $3800, rather $2900.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/misc/spring10.html
Its also worth noting that $2900 is an out the door price after dealer prep.
It is a good price.... If I could find a new 2008 Stella within 150 miles of me with a price of $2,900, I would buy it tomorrow.
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yep thats about right with the county road names you take r to bb to q to kb to pp and then you end up in dyksville
but then again we will tell you go about a mile look for the farm with the blue barn then count 2 red barns and turn left if you get the the brown barn youv gone t far
either that or the directions will include turn left by the white tail tavern and left by the flat top tavern and if you get to hooterville station youve gone too far
if any of you come up for our rally you will get to ride some of these wonderfull letter named roads
but then again we will tell you go about a mile look for the farm with the blue barn then count 2 red barns and turn left if you get the the brown barn youv gone t far
either that or the directions will include turn left by the white tail tavern and left by the flat top tavern and if you get to hooterville station youve gone too far
if any of you come up for our rally you will get to ride some of these wonderfull letter named roads
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Yep, it does show that. For some reason they always list their regular price as opposed to sale prices in there. Probably so they can show the markdown.ScootLemont wrote:Under new scooters....Anachronism wrote:On sportique's front page they have a link to their sales prices. They are NOT trying to sell 2t's at $3800, rather $2900.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/misc/spring10.html
Its also worth noting that $2900 is an out the door price after dealer prep.
http://www.sportiquescooters.com/index. ... n&Itemid=8
Stella 150cc 2t $3,800
In the showroom, they have 08's and 09's at that price, at least I'm pretty sure I saw 09's labeled $2900.
Just buy one and take a road trip.
BTW, Denver sales taxes are pretty close to 8%. At least, Colorado Springs is pretty close to that.
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Thanks - I spent a lot of time looking at your pics & thinking about the 400 mile drive.chad wrote:scootlamont, if you're still looking for one, i have a cherry 2008 with 300 some miles for $2,500. i'm in wisconsin. check in the for sale section here, there's a link to it.
edit: oops, nevermind, i nee nena/menasha has me beat.
In a perfect world I would find a similar Stella at a dealer (so I could trade in my Rattler & not have to deal with selling that) that would be within an hour or so of my house (for service work if I got into something I couldn't handle)
That being said... I could take it to Scooterworks Chicago if I needed to...
Man... I am still thinking about this but would really like to find one closer to home.
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Unlike most other scooters being built today, the Stella, being based on the old Vespa design, is not "center balanced"...that is to say, the engine is offset to the right, and it wants to lean to the right.
The spare tire mounted on the left side compensates for this somewhat, but not completely.
The result is that the Stella (and older Vespas) handle differently on a right-hand turn than on a left-hand turn. You can feel the engine weight trying to pull you back upright when making a fast left turn. At a stoplight, you will more often put your right foot down, unless you learn to tilt it to the left a few degrees.
It isn't a huge thing.
Thousands of people have accomodated themselves to this. Audrey Hepburn rode a Vespa on camera, with Gregory Peck as a passenger.
But it is something to be aware of, an accomodation which must be made.
I speak as one who has owned an Allstate (built by Vespa) and two actual Vespas, a 150 GS and a 180.
The spare tire mounted on the left side compensates for this somewhat, but not completely.
The result is that the Stella (and older Vespas) handle differently on a right-hand turn than on a left-hand turn. You can feel the engine weight trying to pull you back upright when making a fast left turn. At a stoplight, you will more often put your right foot down, unless you learn to tilt it to the left a few degrees.
It isn't a huge thing.
Thousands of people have accomodated themselves to this. Audrey Hepburn rode a Vespa on camera, with Gregory Peck as a passenger.
But it is something to be aware of, an accomodation which must be made.
I speak as one who has owned an Allstate (built by Vespa) and two actual Vespas, a 150 GS and a 180.
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Ok
There is a black 2009 in Wisconsin I have to go look at
cant make it there until the 22nd & am hoping it will still be there
I am taking the attitude that if it is sold before then, its wasnt meant to be but if they still have it, I was meant to have it
Keep your fingers crossed for me
There is a black 2009 in Wisconsin I have to go look at
cant make it there until the 22nd & am hoping it will still be there
I am taking the attitude that if it is sold before then, its wasnt meant to be but if they still have it, I was meant to have it
Keep your fingers crossed for me
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You'll notice it if you look for it. I read about this after owning the Stella and can kind of see what people are talking about, not a big issue. Good luck on the hunt for your Stella.ScootLemont wrote:Ok
There is a black 2009 in Wisconsin I have to go look at
cant make it there until the 22nd & am hoping it will still be there
I am taking the attitude that if it is sold before then, its wasnt meant to be but if they still have it, I was meant to have it
Keep your fingers crossed for me
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Are you talking about noticing it being unbalanced?ObjectAgnosia wrote:You'll notice it if you look for it. I read about this after owning the Stella and can kind of see what people are talking about, not a big issue. Good luck on the hunt for your Stella.
Or something else?
I assume the unbalanced thing isnt a big deal since there are a zillion out there with that design - right?
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Yep 1 year warrantybluezurich wrote:You need to hop all over that one, if a 2T is what you're looking for. 1 year warranty still going to be honored?
Looks nice.
I would go get it this weekend but.... I have to drive 240 miles to pick up my trailer at my place in Wisconsin - then come back home to pick up my trade-in & then go to the dealer back in Wisconsin, but not anywhere near my place there - cant pull that all off in one weekend.
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And..... jmkjr72 tipped me to a Genuine dealership about 30 miles from this one with 5 Stellas in stock - including a RED one - So I plan on coming home with a Stella even if the black one falls through
but hopefully it wont.
& about renting a trailer.... see I need to get one of my trailers anyway.... and mow the grass at my cabin.... and deal with some other things this weekend....
So I am sticking with the whole "if its meant to be, it will happen" thing.
By the way.... anyone have any tips for strapping a scoot to a flat trailer?
please post them at this thread
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Thanks!
but hopefully it wont.
& about renting a trailer.... see I need to get one of my trailers anyway.... and mow the grass at my cabin.... and deal with some other things this weekend....
So I am sticking with the whole "if its meant to be, it will happen" thing.
By the way.... anyone have any tips for strapping a scoot to a flat trailer?
please post them at this thread
topic15210.html
Thanks!
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well unless andy is charging set up and freight on top of that as long as scootlemont takes it with him back to il he wont have to pay ttl in wi he will have to pay in il
but being you have a cottage here in wi scootlemont look at the diffrence in cost for the the ttl and if its cheaper here in wi then home in il tell andy you will be leaving it at your cottage here and use that adress
our plates only run 23 every 2 years 5 or 5.5% sales tax and alomst 100 for the title
but being you have a cottage here in wi scootlemont look at the diffrence in cost for the the ttl and if its cheaper here in wi then home in il tell andy you will be leaving it at your cottage here and use that adress
our plates only run 23 every 2 years 5 or 5.5% sales tax and alomst 100 for the title
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thats odd i know a few people from il that own property up on wa island and they leave there scoots there and they are registered in wiScootLemont wrote:You got it
No prep or anything from the dealer
Wisconsin DMV wont let me get away with registering in Wisconsin
I tried with my trailers
But wisconsin Dnr is happy to take my money for the ATVs and sleds.
Yep... I will have to pay tax in IL
but they also have there mail sent to the adress on the island and i think some one gets it and forwards it to them
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Yeah... no mailbox at the cabin so that would be a problem.
The dmv person said I couldn't with the trailers when I was in the wis. Rapids office trying to do it. She looked at my I'LL drivers licence and told me since I wasn't a full time resident, I couldn't do it.
I told her the trailers would never be back in I'LL but she didn't care.
Actually... the trailer I am picking up right now hasn't been in I'LL in 8 years.
What ever.....
I would rather have the I'LL plates... there are only a couple scoots in my little town and sooner or later a cop would wonder about the one with WI plates
Hey... its a great morning in wisconsin
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The dmv person said I couldn't with the trailers when I was in the wis. Rapids office trying to do it. She looked at my I'LL drivers licence and told me since I wasn't a full time resident, I couldn't do it.
I told her the trailers would never be back in I'LL but she didn't care.
Actually... the trailer I am picking up right now hasn't been in I'LL in 8 years.
What ever.....
I would rather have the I'LL plates... there are only a couple scoots in my little town and sooner or later a cop would wonder about the one with WI plates
Hey... its a great morning in wisconsin
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I swung by Scooterworks (Genuine) today to check out what they had for Stellas
They have six in stock (I think all 09s) no black... but a couple red, couple blue, a green, and an orange
Unfortunatally they are only coming down to around $2,900 + they are not looking for any trades
I really would have liked to take this one home... it was waiting for me at the door
They have six in stock (I think all 09s) no black... but a couple red, couple blue, a green, and an orange
Unfortunatally they are only coming down to around $2,900 + they are not looking for any trades
I really would have liked to take this one home... it was waiting for me at the door
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Go buy the silver one for $1200!
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/1739829406.html
And then spend $30 on a Haynes manual
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/1739829406.html
And then spend $30 on a Haynes manual
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39,000 miles scares me...lmyers wrote:Go buy the silver one for $1200!
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/1739829406.html
And then spend $30 on a Haynes manual
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whats to be scared ofScootLemont wrote:39,000 miles scares me...lmyers wrote:Go buy the silver one for $1200!
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/1739829406.html
And then spend $30 on a Haynes manual
stop by scooter works get the mazz full circle crank a dr bbk do a bit of porting
then have at it
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