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fretman wrote:Scooter is scooter. Catalog is catalog. Paul is walrus.
John was the Walrus.
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sorry DJ, but the walrus was Paul, John was the apeman-KOOOKOOOKACHEW!
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Post by Angela »

Wheelz wrote:John was the apeman-KOOOKOOOKACHEW!
eggman not apeman

in the song glass onion john says the walrus was paul. "Here's another clue for you all, the walrus was Paul."
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Please note that the squirrel is also riding a Buddy...this is obviously a "secret" model that Genuine is hiding from us. To me it looks again like a 2 stroke and about 0.257 cc. That squirrel is flying!
It's entirely possible that Genuine is now supplying the squirrel market with small Buddy's (Mini-Me's?) and the squirrels will now ride en masse into the streets demanding respect from other scooter riders.

In addition, I picked up one of these catalogs from my local dealer just because they are so awesome and fun to thumb through! Well done, Genuine! Now, where are the cool hats and t-shirts? C'MON! :shock:
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pugbuddy wrote:It's entirely possible that Genuine is now supplying the squirrel market with small Buddy's (Mini-Me's?) and the squirrels will now ride en masse into the streets demanding respect from other scooter riders.
I, for one, welcome our new squirrel overlords.
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TVB wrote:
pugbuddy wrote:It's entirely possible that Genuine is now supplying the squirrel market with small Buddy's (Mini-Me's?) and the squirrels will now ride en masse into the streets demanding respect from other scooter riders.
I, for one, welcome our new squirrel overlords.
Probably a smart move.
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KRUSTYburger wrote:
TVB wrote:
pugbuddy wrote:It's entirely possible that Genuine is now supplying the squirrel market with small Buddy's (Mini-Me's?) and the squirrels will now ride en masse into the streets demanding respect from other scooter riders.
I, for one, welcome our new squirrel overlords.
Probably a smart move.
Agreed. I shall have to change my member name to "squirrelbuddy"!
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Angela wrote:
Wheelz wrote:John was the apeman-KOOOKOOOKACHEW!
eggman not apeman

in the song glass onion john says the walrus was paul. "Here's another clue for you all, the walrus was Paul."
Paul is walrus. John is eggman. Ray Davies is apeman. Scooter is scooter.
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It's kind of weird when threads get out of hand and then turn to total nonsense and eventually get buried... We should compile all of them into one big goofy folder.
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TVB wrote:I, for one, welcome our new squirrel overlords.
Indeed... I hear they're quite tasty, when made into a stew.

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"I threw the line in — 'the Walrus was Paul' — just to confuse everybody a bit more. And I thought 'Walrus' has now become me, meaning 'I am the one.' Only it didn't mean that in this song."

Lennon also comments in The Beatles Anthology that he wrote the song at a point when the band was beginning to fall apart, and he hoped that by inserting this line in combination with "I told you 'bout the walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as can be man", he could begin to patch things up with the band.

Lennon said that the fact that McCartney was dressed as a walrus on the cover of the Beatles' Magical Mystery Tour LP inspired the line. However, Lennon himself was dressed as a walrus in the music video for "I Am the Walrus", instead of Paul who is wearing a hippopotamus costume.

Ergo, John was actually the walrus, the "the walrus was paul" was just a joke. John considered himself the walrus. This is a funny thread, it was the 60s, lots of drugs were involved, you'll have to trust me on that one.
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I am the DUDE!!!!!!
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BuddyRaton wrote:I am the DUDE!!!!!!
You mean to tell me that you're not Lebowski? You're the duder?
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I keep my Genuine-supplied squirrel in the pet carrier for emergencies--never know when you might encounter a nut while riding. :lol:
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KRUSTYburger wrote:Okay, since no one else will tell you, I will.

BUDDY SCOOTERS COME IN 3 SIZES: 50cc, 125cc, and 150cc

ALL BUDDY SCOOTERS LOOK THE SAME REGARDLESS OF ENGINE SIZE.


make sense now?
make sense?? Mm... they have all the same dimension from Length, wideth, height, and wheelbase. but they have different frame and engine size.. for instance 150cc assembly engine wont fit in buddy 50, because 50cc frame is different from 125/150 for rest. thats what Geuine Scooter company told me... :wink:

anyway my point is what if seller wanted to sell his or her 50cc scooter. buyer is ignorant about scooter. seller tell buyer it is 125cc scooter. buyer look "125" on scooter which is actual 50cc.. buyer ride scooter test. buyer ask seller, why scooter is very slow. seller tell buyer, " i just put all stock back on scooter. thats why it s slow. you have to upgrade parts for scooter. seller sold it. therefore, seller is deceptive and steal buyer's money...
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Thadsgood wrote:"I threw the line in — 'the Walrus was Paul' — just to confuse everybody a bit more...
Ergo, John was actually the walrus, the "the walrus was paul" was just a joke. John considered himself the walrus...
Even more confusing, I think Paul was in the walrus costume on the album cover, but John was the walrus in the "video".

Paul is Paul. John is John. Walrus is walrus. Scooter is scooter. Clapton is God.
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SCOOT3R wrote:make sense?? Mm... they have all the same dimension from Length, wideth, height, and wheelbase. but they have different frame and engine size.. for instance 150cc assembly engine wont fit in buddy 50, because 50cc frame is different from 125/150 for rest. thats what Geuine Scooter company told me... :wink:
I said they all LOOK the same, not that they are all exactly the same underneath. Body panels are interchangeable between all Buddys.
SCOOT3R wrote:anyway my point is what if seller wanted to sell his or her 50cc scooter. buyer is ignorant about scooter. seller tell buyer it is 125cc scooter. buyer look "125" on scooter which is actual 50cc.. buyer ride scooter test. buyer ask seller, why scooter is very slow. seller tell buyer, " i just put all stock back on scooter. thats why it s slow. you have to upgrade parts for scooter. seller sold it. therefore, seller is deceptive and steal buyer's money...
Is this what happened to you? The person who sold you your scooter told you it was a 125 and put the 125 sticker on it when it was actually a 50cc scooter? Otherwise, this has never happened in real life as far as I know and if it has, the buyer should have done a little more research first.
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laxer wrote:
BuddyRaton wrote:I am the DUDE!!!!!!
You mean to tell me that you're not Lebowski? You're the duder?


"YOU ARE SO, IN WAY OVER YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW, BUDDY!"

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SCOOT3R wrote:anyway my point is what if seller wanted to sell his or her 50cc scooter. buyer is ignorant about scooter. seller tell buyer it is 125cc scooter. buyer look "125" on scooter which is actual 50cc.. buyer ride scooter test. buyer ask seller, why scooter is very slow. seller tell buyer, " i just put all stock back on scooter. thats why it s slow. you have to upgrade parts for scooter. seller sold it. therefore, seller is deceptive and steal buyer's money...
There are other key indications that differentiate the 125 from the 50 at a glance. The exhaust is different and the speedometer is markedly different (usually the first thing I look at on all scooters when trying to discern it's engine size), to name the main two I notice at a glance.

If someone rebadged a scooter as something it isn't, that's very deceptive. No reputable dealer would engage in such a practice, and it's very rare in private sales to do this. As always, however, private "used" sales are considered "as is", and as such should be buyer beware, just as in cars and pretty much everything else. If in doubt, check the stickers. The buddy has one inside the pet carrier that lists displacement. Something I would recommend if you're buying used would be the same thing you'd do with a car purchase. Before handing over money, take it to your mechanic and have them look it over.

On a personal note, if I found out someone was trying to rip me off by attempting to sell me a 50cc as a 125cc...they'd have more to worry about than just unloading the scooter. That would be a call to the police, at bare minimum. I have ZERO tolerance for con artists.

Outside of extremely shady dealings, passing one off as the other is purely theoretical. The catalogue has nothing to do with this. As far as the catalogue goes, the claim they're making is scooters are being fun to ride. No lies, no BS, no false claims. Genuine Scooters claims that a 50cc can do 30 mph, and a 125 or 150 can do 60 mph. They also state that this may vary based on multiple riding conditions, and it does. In no way, shape or form are false claims being presented, nor are any attempts at deception.

I think you're reading much too deep into the photos.
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KRUSTYburger wrote:
SCOOT3R wrote:anyway my point is what if seller wanted to sell his or her 50cc scooter. buyer is ignorant about scooter. seller tell buyer it is 125cc scooter. buyer look "125" on scooter which is actual 50cc.. buyer ride scooter test. buyer ask seller, why scooter is very slow. seller tell buyer, " i just put all stock back on scooter. thats why it s slow. you have to upgrade parts for scooter. seller sold it. therefore, seller is deceptive and steal buyer's money...
Is this what happened to you? The person who sold you your scooter told you it was a 125 and put the 125 sticker on it when it was actually a 50cc scooter? Otherwise, this has never happened in real life as far as I know and if it has, the buyer should have done a little more research first.
I tried selling one of my Suburbans and told the guy it had a stock 1.5L 3 cyl engine and it got 40 mpg. He kicked my ass.

It is all buyer beware. If you do not know what you are buying, then you probably ought not buy it.
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i guess some folks ignored the warning that went out about the brown acid

(i'm looking at you scoot3r)
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Ha haHAHAHAH... At least a troll like this is fun...! :lol:

But what's even more fun are all the bleeding hearts who are out to be so carefully 'politically correct'
here by trying to protect and explain away this poor dear 'deaf' pidgeon-speaking irately anal Buddy-knocker! :P

-This sucka is quite clever; reminds me of the 'Flim-Flam' cartoons!
Best fun I've seen on this forum in several years; almost makes me wish I weren't selling my buddy..! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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SCOOT3R wrote:
KRUSTYburger wrote:Okay, since no one else will tell you, I will.

BUDDY SCOOTERS COME IN 3 SIZES: 50cc, 125cc, and 150cc

ALL BUDDY SCOOTERS LOOK THE SAME REGARDLESS OF ENGINE SIZE.


make sense now?
make sense?? Mm... they have all the same dimension from Length, wideth, height, and wheelbase. but they have different frame and engine size.. for instance 150cc assembly engine wont fit in buddy 50, because 50cc frame is different from 125/150 for rest. thats what Geuine Scooter company told me... :wink:

anyway my point is what if seller wanted to sell his or her 50cc scooter. buyer is ignorant about scooter. seller tell buyer it is 125cc scooter. buyer look "125" on scooter which is actual 50cc.. buyer ride scooter test. buyer ask seller, why scooter is very slow. seller tell buyer, " i just put all stock back on scooter. thats why it s slow. you have to upgrade parts for scooter. seller sold it. therefore, seller is deceptive and steal buyer's money...
I hate to break this to you, but all models do have the same exact 100% same, absolute same, frame. The 50cc vs the 125cc does have a slightly different engine mount for the different model of engine. But besides that, nearly everything is interchangeable.

The 125 and 150 have 100% the same frame and same mount since the 150cc is just a modified engine.
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Why are so many of you (you know who you are) hijacking this thread with off topic nonsense about scooter frames, engines and squirrels?
I believe the OP was about The Beatles and 60's music. We should try to focus the discussion on that. OK?
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Drumwoulf wrote:...But what's even more fun are all the bleeding hearts who are out to be so carefully 'politically correct'
here by trying to protect and explain away this poor dear 'deaf' pidgeon-speaking irately anal Buddy-knocker!
Yeah, 'specially since the word is pidgin. And that's not what a non-native speaker speaks (and let's not get into writing, by the way). A pidgin is not even a "language" by definition. There are folks on the list who are experts in many different fields...the linguists are going crazy over the these threads.
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BuddyRaton wrote:'06 Cream Buddy 125, 07 Burgman Executive, 67 Vespa GT, 64 Vespa 150 VBB 64 Vespa GL
BuddyRaton's scooter collection is scooter collection.
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Drumwoulf wrote:Ha haHAHAHAH... At least a troll like this is fun...! :lol:

But what's even more fun are all the bleeding hearts who are out to be so carefully 'politically correct'
here by trying to protect and explain away this poor dear 'deaf' pidgeon-speaking irately anal Buddy-knocker! :P

-This sucka is quite clever; reminds me of the 'Flim-Flam' cartoons!
Best fun I've seen on this forum in several years; almost makes me wish I weren't selling my buddy..! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Who is the troll now?

Not that it is any of your, or anyone on this forum's business, but I happen to also be profoundly deaf. I grew up hearing and became progressively hard of hearing in my teens because of frequent ear infections and a genetic bone disorder. When I was in nursing school I made the decision that I would take ASL as my "foreign" language. My third quarter of ASL classes I went swimming and the ear plugs did not protect my ears from the pseudomonas in the inadequately chlorinated water.

The tubes in my ears (yup, like they commonly put in the ears of young children for ear infections) were an open door to the infection to go everywere.

Two days after swimming, I knew I had another infection.

Four days after swimming I knew something was different.

A week after swimming I was laying in a hospital bed-yes, for an ear infection. A week of Levaquin by IV and we knew the bug we were dealing with, I was sent to an infectious disease specialist, she had a PICC line put into my arm to give access for me to take Cefepime by that PICC line three times a day, every day for 6 months straight. I was put back into the hospital a few additional times during that 6 month treatment when I was in danger of going septic, but I survived it.

My hearing didn't

My marriage didn't

But, I survived

When I realized that I was not going to be going back to living the life of a hearing person, I contacted some of my friends that I had made during ASL classes. They helped me to make the biggest transition of my life.

Many of those people are the most intelligent, compassionate, amazing people I ave ever had the fortune of coming into contact with. They use THEIR native language beautifully, sometimes I get lost in the flow and rhythm of their expressive language. They also write akin to the posts on this forum by Scoot3r. I am not an authority, but I am well educated and experienced in this and I feel very confident in my assessment.

I have learned many bitter lessons about the ways of the ignorant, and, sadly, many more lessons about the ways of the audist.

I have seen people say things to me like, "Oh but you don't sound deaf!" Or they talk about my perfect speech and command of the English language. They mean it as a complement. I take it as a deep insult.

I made the decision to get a Cochlear Implant in order to improve my chances of finding a job that would allow me to support my 2 children and for personal reasons. Without it, I searched for a job for years, and that was in a far better economy. Once hearing people could ignore my Deafness, I got a job within months. I have had to put up with a lot even so, but at least it is a job.

No, I am not a hearing person and I am not trying to be one. I am involved in the Deaf community and consider myself to be a late Deafened adult, I use ASL interpreters for appointments and meetings at work-my interpreters use a pidgin form of the languages because I use English more naturally. I also sit on the Board of Trustees of Deaf Services Center, a non-profit organization that works to support the needs of the Deaf, deaf, Hard of Hearing, and hearing through advocacy, education, youth services, and peer support. I do not have a voice phone and depend on others to help me make voice phone calls.

One of the hardest things that I have had to learn is that you can fix ignorance-just educate them; but when it comes to audists-the cruel ones who take active pleasure from putting someone else "in their place"-well they are going to stay firm in their beliefs and they will defend their cruelty by attacking more. To my deep humiliation I had relatives that were racists, I never understood their views but I know their methods...

and "-ists" are "-ists"

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Although my favorite food is probably a good slab of babyback ribs, I believe that my favorite kind of food would have to be Indian food. Something about spicy curries and rose milk that just puts you in a whole different place...
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Vic,

Nobody gives a rats behind that scoot3r is deaf. What is amusing is that this person comes to a forum of Buddy owners and either (a) makes absolutely no sense or (b) talks complete smack about Genuine. I can make any number of excuses of why I sound like an ass most of the time but, in the end it makes no difference. Nobody says "Hey, cut Scooter Dave some slack because he has a 3rd nipple and that makes it ok".
I realize that GS's catalog is the true deceptive! i dont think so catalog printed that make mistakes.
You know this is truth I bring out what you can't defeence. but GS or you wanted me or people believe the good liar advertise catalog.. they arent legit!

Dave
p.s. I really do not have a 3rd nipple.
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Vic wrote:
Drumwoulf wrote:Ha haHAHAHAH... At least a troll like this is fun...! :lol:

But what's even more fun are all the bleeding hearts who are out to be so carefully 'politically correct'
here by trying to protect and explain away this poor dear 'deaf' pidgeon-speaking irately anal Buddy-knocker! :P

-This sucka is quite clever; reminds me of the 'Flim-Flam' cartoons!
Best fun I've seen on this forum in several years; almost makes me wish I weren't selling my buddy..! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Who is the troll now?

Not that it is any of your, or anyone on this forum's business, but I happen to also be profoundly deaf. I grew up hearing and became progressively hard of hearing in my teens because of frequent ear infections and a genetic bone disorder. When I was in nursing school I made the decision that I would take ASL as my "foreign" language. My third quarter of ASL classes I went swimming and the ear plugs did not protect my ears from the pseudomonas in the inadequately chlorinated water.

The tubes in my ears (yup, like they commonly put in the ears of young children for ear infections) were an open door to the infection to go everywere.

Two days after swimming, I knew I had another infection.

Four days after swimming I knew something was different.

A week after swimming I was laying in a hospital bed-yes, for an ear infection. A week of Levaquin by IV and we knew the bug we were dealing with, I was sent to an infectious disease specialist, she had a PICC line put into my arm to give access for me to take Cefepime by that PICC line three times a day, every day for 6 months straight. I was put back into the hospital a few additional times during that 6 month treatment when I was in danger of going septic, but I survived it.

My hearing didn't

My marriage didn't

But, I survived

When I realized that I was not going to be going back to living the life of a hearing person, I contacted some of my friends that I had made during ASL classes. They helped me to make the biggest transition of my life.

Many of those people are the most intelligent, compassionate, amazing people I ave ever had the fortune of coming into contact with. They use THEIR native language beautifully, sometimes I get lost in the flow and rhythm of their expressive language. They also write akin to the posts on this forum by Scoot3r. I am not an authority, but I am well educated and experienced in this and I feel very confident in my assessment.

I have learned many bitter lessons about the ways of the ignorant, and, sadly, many more lessons about the ways of the audist.

I have seen people say things to me like, "Oh but you don't sound deaf!" Or they talk about my perfect speech and command of the English language. They mean it as a complement. I take it as a deep insult.

I made the decision to get a Cochlear Implant in order to improve my chances of finding a job that would allow me to support my 2 children and for personal reasons. Without it, I searched for a job for years, and that was in a far better economy. Once hearing people could ignore my Deafness, I got a job within months. I have had to put up with a lot even so, but at least it is a job.

No, I am not a hearing person and I am not trying to be one. I am involved in the Deaf community and consider myself to be a late Deafened adult, I use ASL interpreters for appointments and meetings at work-my interpreters use a pidgin form of the languages because I use English more naturally. I also sit on the Board of Trustees of Deaf Services Center, a non-profit organization that works to support the needs of the Deaf, deaf, Hard of Hearing, and hearing through advocacy, education, youth services, and peer support. I do not have a voice phone and depend on others to help me make voice phone calls.

One of the hardest things that I have had to learn is that you can fix ignorance-just educate them; but when it comes to audists-the cruel ones who take active pleasure from putting someone else "in their place"-well they are going to stay firm in their beliefs and they will defend their cruelty by attacking more. To my deep humiliation I had relatives that were racists, I never understood their views but I know their methods...

and "-ists" are "-ists"

-v
IMO you're falling for this troll's crap! Just because you're deaf and probably a nice person doesn't mean that he really is either one of these things, y'know? Read the stuff he writes... It's nonsensical balony! It's not a shorthand, it's deliberate mis-spellings and non-meanings! (And almost always anti-Buddy too.. -Why is that, on a Buddy forum?)

I've met and known deaf people, most of whom were, like yourself, intelligent, and quite capable of writing intelligently. To my way of thinking apologizing for this guy's buffoonery by saying this is the way deaf people are is an insulting cop out, regardless of whether he's really 'deaf' or isn't!

Tell me, do you think because someone has a physical handicap it then follows that all of their conduct has to be accepted and excused? I myself have had plenty of dealings with mentally ill people, and one important thing I've learned is that just because someone may be ill or sick or less abled, that doesn't give them the right to hit you over the head with their crutches!

You want fair and equal treatment for less abled people? Well IMO if this person is deaf and thusly less abled (and I'm not quite ready to concede that point yet either!), the treatment he's receiving here is just that!
Namaste,
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Lostmycage wrote:I'm about to start spewing swirls and pixie stars... :roll:
When I start spewing swirls .... others might start seeing stars :shock:
I wasn't born... so much as I fell out . : The Clash
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jfrost2 wrote:I hate to break this to you, but all models do have the same exact 100% same, absolute same, frame. The 50cc vs the 125cc does have a slightly different engine mount for the different model of engine. But besides that, nearly everything is interchangeable.

The 125 and 150 have 100% the same frame and same mount since the 150cc is just a modified engine.
Jfrost2, you and others give me a different direction. so thats exactly what i told yahama and GS that all model have same exact sizes and can be interchangable. both tell me, no, buddy 125/150 parts or engine can't interchange with 50cc at all. so they gave me specifed 50cc parts and engine as such Big Bore Cylinder Kits, Minarelli parts or Minarelli engine assembly, performance shock for buddy 50.

KRUSTYburger wrote: Is this what happened to you? The person who sold you your scooter told you it was a 125 and put the 125 sticker on it when it was actually a 50cc scooter? Otherwise, this has never happened in real life as far as I know and if it has, the buyer should have done a little more research first.
Krusty, No, that didnt happened to me.. you never know it could be happen to others. the GS catalog's misinfomtion can be influence owners. Perhap they already plot their idea that buy the secondhand winsheld with 125 or 150 from scooter junkyard, and replace it with their buddy scooter's part or body.. so they have a chance selling it to ignorant buyers and rip off the buyer's money. buyers will havent time for research. they want to buy it now.

NEVER KNOW.
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I told you about this guy.....I hate being right. (seems to happen a lot though lol)
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Drumwoulf wrote:IMO you're falling for this troll's crap!
If you and the others are right that he's a troll, then it's you who've fallen for it, by littering the forum with childish crap in response to him. Let's assume for the sake of argument that your somewhat paranoid conclusion is correct. Do you think trolls care whether you believe them or not? They just want to get a reaction, any reaction. You want to show us how much better you are than him? Do it by ignoring him instead of engaging in this race to see how much more of an ass you can be.
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Vic, I do completely understanding that you want to talk to me since another thread (" buddy 50 is disapoble") was locked up.

those peoople really not care what you try to tell them by your own explain. they come here to cast for their troll, off-topic, and flame in my thread. Because moderator was suspect and accurse me being troll and muilti usernames. ( i really dont know what moderator talk about).. So, thst show the mods dont care if bullies come into this thread for off topic, and even troll.
Vic wrote:Perhaps the situation is that Scoot3r made a purchase of a 50cc scooter with the understanding that the scooter would meet his needs and the needs of his girlfriend. Unfortunately, that has proved to not be the case and the 50cc is not really what they needed, not fast enough or whatever.

-v
Vic, Actually, I purchased tthe 50 cc scooter for her. she commute her work for purpose. Like I posted in another thread that my fiancee is dsiapponited that scooter is not fast enough for her after yahama dealership derestricted.
Vic wrote:I am not bashing 50cc scooters, I had the wonderful opportunity to ride a friends' Metropolitan (still restricted but well past the break in period) and it is a super little machine and a hell of a lot of fun to ride around. If I lived in the city, I can easily see getting a lot of use out of that little scoot. However, I do not live in the city and a 50cc would leave me frustrated and unhappy, it would not meet my needs.
How comes If i dont understanding what the advice from the dealer.. you expect that i misunderstand or miscommute with the dealer? prove you, thats incorrect.. I wrote the paper with them by back and forth without misunderstand. I questioned them bout scooter before sign the agreement and bought it. I was asked them, last serious question: do you have parts for scooter in future? they said Yes the parts are availbe for 50cc scooter. Later ( few days) i came back the dealership and asked them about parts. I found out that parts arent available for 50 2stroke engine. they are one who misleaded, and deceived me... they turned me off and distrust them..
Vic wrote:It seems to me that Scoot3r got some bad advice or did not completely understand the advice that he got from his dealer, he may also have seen some folks talking about their 50cc scooters that go 50mph. I don't know where he lives, but in Ohio *I believe* you are not permitted to ride 2 up on a 50cc bike (could be wrong about that, so please let me know if that is not correct).
Yes Me too, I aint here to loathe 50cc scoot. I really like 50cc scooters. this buddy 50 is not my expectation. it was for my fiancee.
Vic wrote:Adding to the frustration that he and his girlfriend is currently feeling, there is this picture that he believes shows a 50cc scooter with folks zooming along 2 up.
what? wwhat are you talk about? Please take a look those pictures again. what they tell yyou? vic, dont mis-interpret of me by this. this really nothing do with my worshipping woman.

This just be me, I started to read the catalog. Somehow, catalog's pictures caught my eyes. thats truly bother me.

Genuine scooter company should fire the editior, because of catalog is truly misinform that green one is 150cc; and the red/wine scooter with winsheld "125". they arent! those are actual 50cc 2stroke scooter..
Vic wrote:This has not been his experience with the scooter that he purchased, apparently with the belief that his girlfriend would be thrilled about. I can understand the frustration which I believe is what he is trying to express.
How i have lack experince with scooter?? ::scratch head:: Let me tell you, that's not my character and please don't be too assume that. In 1991, I was purchased the 89 yahama superbike from my friend. I rode motorcycle for 3 years and half. If i had lack of experince with scooter or motorcyle. I never will buy own the scooter or motorcycle. I wont be here in forum for guarantee Forever!
Vic wrote:He clearly has a very limited experience with scooters and the language barrier makes it difficult to communicate needs and desires and what is appropriate to meet those needs. The language barrier also makes it difficult for native English users to understand what he is trying to express, and his methods of expressing it is grating on many nerves (including my own.)
No I really nothing do with limit experince with scooters. I know what the scooter does. in past, I rode the 50cc superbike that lend from my friend.. there is no limit experince scooter for me.

language barrier? Mm.. I acknowlegded that my gammar struction is issues.. I feel Zero any shame of what my grammar does if errors or not. I can see those people are priorty grammar nazi.
Vic wrote:Right now he is very likely feeling that this brochure is what he had pictured in his mind for him, his girlfriend, and their Buddy, but it is not the reality that he is experiencing. I think anyone would be frustrated about this kind of situation.-v
what? thats incorrect. the image of picture really nothing do with me, my woman and buddy...

vic- if anybody had hard to understanding my post. why not they ignore my thread and find another thread's topic what they interesting in?
Vic wrote:He is obsessing about it, but if I just dropped $2k on a gift for someone special and it was rejected because it is not what I pictured, I would be pretty peeved also, that's a lot of money, particularly in this economy.
of course, thats true.. thats how i felt. $2500 is gone, there is no cooling off nor trade in. Wow, that suck!
Vic wrote:I doubt that he also understands about the break in period and that their new scooter WILL get a bit better, it will get a tiny bit faster, and so on, but it is not going to zip along the byways of life 2 up at 50mph without some serious modifications and there goes the warranty.
You doubt? I am actual mechanic. Yes I know what you talk about the break in period. for instance I buy new brake pads for car. I replaced it with new pads before drive and I read instruction's decribe that new brake pads will break in period for 50-100 miles.

So i doubt that yahama did actually derestrict buddy 50 scooter or they never did. Perhap they just being fooled me "yes they did destrict 50cc scooter" before I bought. its fishy to me. I will check it on my own, if washer is still there in varator assembly.
Vic wrote:Scoot3r's gift to his girlfriend of a 50cc Buddy scooter is a lovely gift, but, sadly, it does not meet their needs.


I would venture that a nearly new 50cc Buddy would be able to sell for very close to what he has invested, yes there will be a bit of a financial loss but consider that the price of a good lesson. Take that money and buy a used 125cc Buddy that will meet the needs and expectations of the girlfriend. Then, both Scoot3r and his girlfriend can ride along with big smiles on their happy faces and know that they have a good quality scooter that they can depend on.
Yes big time, My money is investment loss! new brand buddy 50 scooter is a worth $ 2,525. whoa, thats waste!

anyway I am gonna help her financial for buy the new another 150 cc scooter soon.

dont worry.. buddy 50 might be my project, and commute in my neightborhood as such p.o box, food store, library, bookstore or mall shopping..




Cheshire wrote:There are other key indications that differentiate the 125 from the 50 at a glance. The exhaust is different and the speedometer is markedly different (usually the first thing I look at on all scooters when trying to discern it's engine size), to name the main two I notice at a glance.
50, 125, 150 have the exact same featured speedometer. :wink:
Cheshire wrote:I think you're reading much too deep into the photos.
remember that picture is worth a thousand words. the words itself is more express me than just photos!





Drumwoulf wrote: IMO you're falling for this troll's crap! Just because you're deaf and probably a nice person doesn't mean that he really is either one of these things, y'know? Read the stuff he writes... It's nonsensical balony! It's not a shorthand, it's deliberate mis-spellings and non-meanings! (And almost always anti-Buddy too.. -Why is that, on a Buddy forum?)

I've met and known deaf people, most of whom were, like yourself, intelligent, and quite capable of writing intelligently. To my way of thinking apologizing for this guy's buffoonery by saying this is the way deaf people are is an insulting cop out, regardless of whether he's really 'deaf' or isn't!

Tell me, do you think because someone has a physical handicap it then follows that all of their conduct has to be accepted and excused? I myself have had plenty of dealings with mentally ill people, and one important thing I've learned is that just because someone may be ill or sick or less abled, that doesn't give them the right to hit you over the head with their crutches!

You want fair and equal treatment for less abled people? Well IMO if this person is deaf and thusly less abled (and I'm not quite ready to concede that point yet either!), the treatment he's receiving here is just that!
I really dont care if You believe or not that I am very asl fluent & intelligence in person is more different than this. some hearing people I know, they are very intelligant and speaking in eloquent, but they dont know how to write a letter "A B C".

you feel that I cant write the grammars properly. you expect me to read all posts without create my own post? You wanted me to kiss your A** for intelligent people? I dont think so that i would. I am not your follower. Because you dont know what my weakness arera. So you can put up your own bs with any threads include this. However, I do understanding that you are attract with an intelligent group in this forum. you one of them think better than others include me.. its show me thats your true color..

but in realistic life, will you speaking BS with me in person if you met me?

Dont insult my intelligant.
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Post by KRUSTYburger »

SCOOT3R wrote:Dont insult my intelligant.
Somebody's gonna jump on that one, but it's not gonna be me.

Maybe your scooter hasn't been de-restricted or is just slow since it hasn't been broken-in yet?
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"and the beat goes on...and the beat goes on...loddy doody dee, loddy doddy da!"

Seriously folks, let's just stop all of this.

Scoot3r, we all identify with your problems, it's not that we don't want to believe you. you have to stop bashing Genuine in specific. If you were misinformed or some how duped by your dealer, then your problem is with them. Genuine made the scooter, it works fine for what it is. If it is not what your girlfriend expected then that is your lesson learned. Take it for what it is, a chance to get a new scooter, for your lady, and a nice new 50cc scooter for you to tinker with and make it faster, it is possible, as we have said the parts are there and if you are mechanically inclined the knowledge is there as well.
I do not own a buddy I own a Rattler, and yes it's slower than I had imagined, but it's a hell of alot of fun, I don't blame Genuine for it being a bit slower, I blame my 230 # 6 foot tall frame! I am too fat to ride Rattler, that is not Genuine's fault.
And the catalog issue well come on now if your an adult, and we all assume you are, that argument is just, well silly.
Too some it up. you were welcomed to the forum when you first posted, sure some of us expected maybe you were a troll. Then you bought your scooter, and posted a picture that we all thought was pretty cool. After that it has turned into an all out Genuine is bad flame fest by you. Now maybe you don't quite understand, but this is a Genuine owners forum most of us love our scooters and couldn't be happier with the way they were built or perform. Just stop the genuine bashing and ask your legit questions and somebody will answer them. I don't care if your black, white, purple, deaf, missing limbs, or have a third superfluos nipple (Scooter Dave ;}) if we feel your genuine, then we will be.

as always "The dude abides"
"Hey You, yeah, all you'se thoughts, specially you, creepy wierd one in the corner, Screw you guys, I'm going for a ride..."
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preach it wheelz.
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Re: I want to tell you somthing important!

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SCOOT3R wrote:I read the Genuine Scooter's catalog. there is something in pictures caught my eyes...
I want to tell you something unimportant. IDGAS! :roll:
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SCOOT3R, here's the deal.

As many have pointed out, no one cares how you write. Yes, it's hard to decipher what you're trying to say but this is not about that. I know there have been people who have made fun of you and that's why I've locked this and the other thread. ModernBuddy is not a place where that's supposed to happen.

However, this IS about your repeated accusations and rants about Genuine Scooters when the fact is, you purchased a scooter that was not right for your needs when you had every opportunity to figure that out from your posts here or other research. It's your own fault; get over it.

Aditionally, your idea that Genuine is being deceptive in their brochure is asinine. Guess what? A Big Mac never looks like the picture, toothpaste never squeezes out of a tube into a perfect squiggly, and if you have an erection that lasts for more than four hours, consult a doctor. It's advertising. If you believe Genuine is engaging in false advertising, take it up with the FTC, which governs such matters.

Finally, if you want to continue to participate here, please post things that are relevant and/or helpful. You keep getting bashed mostly because you are posting complaints and suggestions that are outlandish. And if someone makes fun of you simply for your writing style, there is a little exclamation point (!) at the top right of every post. Click on the post where you are being made fun of and it will send a repot to the rest of the moderators and me and we will handle it (and to ALL of ModBud, come on do we really want to be classic Internet jerks and make fun of things like grammar?).

So, leave the Genuine bashing at home if you want to be a member here, report those who are rude or mocking toward you, and try to be a helpful contributing member and things will be just fine. If you don't want to play by those rules, please find another forum to participate in.

And no, you don't get a response in this thread. This thread is done.

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