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- az_slynch
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I'd guess that your clutch cable could use an adjustment. How far do you have to pull the lever in to gearchange?
At what point does a hobby become an addiction? I'm uncertain, but after the twelfth scooter, it sorta feels like the latter...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
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If you've already adjusted the cable, the issue could be the clutch itself. I've had a similar problem with a Vespa clutch before. Three things in the clutch assembly can cause this:Drum Pro wrote:I just adjusted the clutch and the gear cables.... I wish I knew how to do more but I'm stumped....az_slynch wrote:I'd guess that your clutch cable could use an adjustment. How far do you have to pull the lever in to gearchange?
1. The bronze spacer washer between the drive plate and the pressure plate has completely worn out and the drive plate is now rubbing against the crankshaft assembly.
2) The bronze bushing that press-fits on the pressure plate has worn out or cracked and has shifted so that it's rubbing against the crankshaft assembly or is causing the drive plate and pressure plate to bind up. The drive plate rides on this bushing, which allows it to remain stationary while the pressure plate and clutch basket rotate with the crankshaft.
3) The clutch actuator arm in the clutch cover snapped. It appears to be a 4T Stella specific problem. It's been reported enough that I bought the DRT heavy-duty arms for the actuator. I may have a spare if you need one.
At what point does a hobby become an addiction? I'm uncertain, but after the twelfth scooter, it sorta feels like the latter...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
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Thanks but I wouldn't know how to fix something like that. I'm just gonna take it to a shop....az_slynch wrote:If you've already adjusted the cable, the issue could be the clutch itself. I've had a similar problem with a Vespa clutch before. Three things in the clutch assembly can cause this:Drum Pro wrote:I just adjusted the clutch and the gear cables.... I wish I knew how to do more but I'm stumped....az_slynch wrote:I'd guess that your clutch cable could use an adjustment. How far do you have to pull the lever in to gearchange?
1. The bronze spacer washer between the drive plate and the pressure plate has completely worn out and the drive plate is now rubbing against the crankshaft assembly.
2) The bronze bushing that press-fits on the pressure plate has worn out or cracked and has shifted so that it's rubbing against the crankshaft assembly or is causing the drive plate and pressure plate to bind up. The drive plate rides on this bushing, which allows it to remain stationary while the pressure plate and clutch basket rotate with the crankshaft.
3) The clutch actuator arm in the clutch cover snapped. It appears to be a 4T Stella specific problem. It's been reported enough that I bought the DRT heavy-duty arms for the actuator. I may have a spare if you need one.
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maybe your idle is too low.. I remember my 2010 4t well about pulling in the clutch at stop lights.. in neutral... idles fine.. pull in the clutch and the engine would slow down. even without putting in gear..
Just pulling in the clutch at a dead stop made the rpms go down.. slowly but surely and if it had the time, drop enough to die.
It did this all the time.
I made the habit of coming up to the light... downshifting to second.. then roll into neutral without the clutch while the bike was still rolling.
and when the light turned green.. rev the throttle a bit.. pulll in the clutch and pop into 1st gear and take off....
Who likes to sit thru a cycle of red//green/ yellow lights at a dead stop while holding your clutch lever in?? not me.
Then I increased the idle a bit but still stuck to my new routine about red lights..
good luck...
see if your rpms go down slowely as you sit dead stop with the clutch pulled in and NOT in gear..
maybe mine was a fluke.
Just pulling in the clutch at a dead stop made the rpms go down.. slowly but surely and if it had the time, drop enough to die.
It did this all the time.
I made the habit of coming up to the light... downshifting to second.. then roll into neutral without the clutch while the bike was still rolling.
and when the light turned green.. rev the throttle a bit.. pulll in the clutch and pop into 1st gear and take off....
Who likes to sit thru a cycle of red//green/ yellow lights at a dead stop while holding your clutch lever in?? not me.
Then I increased the idle a bit but still stuck to my new routine about red lights..
good luck...
see if your rpms go down slowely as you sit dead stop with the clutch pulled in and NOT in gear..
maybe mine was a fluke.
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Good point, Jim. I overshot and assumed that he couldn't get into gear due to the clutch not working at all. I do hope it's the simpler solution.jimmbomb wrote:maybe your idle is too low...
Mine does (did) drop in RPM a little with the shift into first gear, but it never stalled out. I did pick up the SIP roller style pressure plate for mine to reduce drag when the clutch is engaged.
At what point does a hobby become an addiction? I'm uncertain, but after the twelfth scooter, it sorta feels like the latter...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
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Same thing happened to my 2010 4 stroke..Drum Pro wrote:Thanks guys! It was #3. Well done to the shop guys in Costa Mesa. Fixed it with the quickness.. Too bad it's piss'n down rain at the moment and I won't be able to get to the shop to pick it up by closing time....
talked about it here
Good deal you got it fixed
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- az_slynch
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Glad you were able to get your scoot sorted. Still not sure why this is an issue for the 4T and not the 2T; it's essentially the same part.
1500!
1500!
At what point does a hobby become an addiction? I'm uncertain, but after the twelfth scooter, it sorta feels like the latter...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...
Seriously...I've lost count...
Seven mopeds ...that's still manageable...