Modern Buddy

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I purchased their sport exhaust and per their advice, a 42 pilot , 90 main jet, and 9g Dr Pulley sliders. The scooter is louder and acceleration is worse. Top speed maybe 3 mph faster. Anyhow it seems to be running rich. I plan to go to 7g Dr Pulley sliders and a 38mm Uni red foam filter. If it seiz...

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Dealers don't re jet to derestict. They only a washer in the exhaust header and another in the variator
According to the on line parts guide it has a 82
The Buddy uses a 75
If it runs good don't worry!

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The first thing I'd do is buy some Chevron Techron FI fuel conditioner and run a tank of gas with 2 ounces of Techron. It's worked for me on both a BMW 650 and a 300 Ninja when both had idle problems when the engines were hot, like after a 20 minute ride. Bought it at Walmart.

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You're going to love it a lot more when the washer in the header is removed and the spacer in the variator

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Great at high rpm and lousy everywhere else . It's for racing not very day use, I could be wrong but usually you do this mod with 70 BBK which takes care of the low speed issue due to the larger displacement.

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MonsterHouse 50 wrote:Hey guys I have a 2013 roughhouse 50 that I adore. The issue I have is I just installed a prima exhaust on it and I'm getting some serious lag at 26-34 mph. After I hot 45 I take of to roughly 60mph.
I need some help please!

I'd bet you need a #42 pilot jet and adjust the mixture screw.

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I assume it would be expensive to buy. If it can't be charged at home at 110v I wouldn't consider buying one. My present gas scooters get 70 to 90 mpg and are catalytic converter equipped so I don't think I'm a big polluter. Electric motors can produce huge power as Tesla has proven. Of course they ...

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Scooterworks sells the kit so email them. Of course a persons body weight has a lot to do with it. Mine indicates 50 mph on the speedo on a straight road with a slight downhill grade. I weigh 180. The exhaust re striction and variator washer were removed by dealer. The speedo is probably optimistic.

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All I know is Scooterworks in Chicago, related to Genuine Scooter Co, sells a sport exhaust also which will not void the warranty. They also sell Prima and state it will void the warranty. I bought the sport exhaust, the recommended 90 main jet, plus the recommended 9g Dr Pulley sliders, and a 42 pi...

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I loved my Buddy 170i, but after replacing the exhaust and the rollers, bit the bullet and bought a Yamaha S max. It's heavier but makes 15hp versus 11 and does 72 mph. Luckily I could buy a Rough house too for the city. If 125cc two strokes were legal, I could only need one scooter.

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I get a lot of useful info, thank you all. Especially from those with direct experience who are helpful with their experience rather than opinions. Like we say opinions are like.... Fill in the blanks. So many people have agendas, I just thank the forum for those who are helpful. I'm new to the ego ...

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Atony posted his experience with the exhaust. It works better than stock at all rpm.

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Put the stock exhaust back on and the rollers and who knows. Of course a BBK is another thing.and I'm not doing that as I also own a bigger scooter. Don't see the point of spending many hundreds of dollars hopping up a 50. Get a motorcycle license and just buy a bigger bike.insurance on a 50 and a 1...

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The cockpit is tight if you have long legs. Agreed. But keeping weight on the front wheel is the purpose. I'm very happy with mine and it's not even broken in, the brakes are strong and progressive. It's like a Sportbike scooter.

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It's up to your local dealer whether or not he submits the claim. I've also worked at dealerships and know warranty 2.0. Don't know why you are such an expert. Worked 10 years at motorcycle dealerships and another 10 in automobiles. Done with this thread. You are of course, the expert

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Scooterworks, a company related to Genuine sells many items where they say this will void your warranty They do have one performance exhaust that will not void the warranty. They advised me to get one, plus a 90 main jet and a 42 pilot jet as well as Dr. Pulley 9 gram slider weights. Haven't broken ...

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The local Genuine dealer told me he will only install Malossi kits. He has never had much success with other brands. Definitely voids your 2 year warranty.

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Forgot how a de restricted two stroke powered by 50,000 angry bees ran. Very happy

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I should have mentioned I weigh 175 pounds and never ride double

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There is a plate riveted to the plastic below the cubby with the vin, tire size and recommended tire pressure. Do not go by the tire pressure at maximum load on the tire sidewall as many heavier scooters use the same tire. If you rarely ride a passenger on the back, I'd go 24f 26r. I had an Adly 50 ...

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Actual is 71 to 73 depending on wind conditions. I only ride interstates if I have to. There is a good S max vs Burgman 200 on line review by Revzilla. I agree with their conclusion. But for my needs the Yamaha is great. The Suzuki Burgman 200 is too big in the downtown area where I live. I don't li...

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A Malossi expansion chamber will kill the bottom end and midrange, I only want to do the sport exhaust, 9g Dr Pulleys, 90 main jet. I have a Yamaha S max thet revs to 9500 rpm and tops out at 75. Don't need to spend big bucks for a BBK, new variator, 21 mm carb to make the Rough house just a little ...

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I wear a 3/4 helmet and sometimes a half helmet made by HJC and Shoei. May lose my teeth but at least they protect your brain. It's a riders choice. I also wear an armored jacket. Don't know if anything you wear will save you. As long as you ride totally alert and be aware most vehicles on the road ...

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Ok you don't like the exhaust and it voids the warranty. So you have bought one and it sucks and the dealer voided the warranty. So you bought one and you're talking from personal experience or what? Just asking you Dasscooter as you seem to be on it

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40 Buddy mph is like 35. So did the dealer derestrict just the exhaust, or did he also remove the thick washer from the variator/ drive face? I'm about to buy the same exhaust and main jet from Scooterworks, who supplied yours to the dealer. Just don't want to spend $135 for some parts that may do v...

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The Rough House has nothing to do with GY6 scooters. It's a 2 stroke. Anyhow since its new and under warranty once it's de restricted and broken in I can change the exhaust and up the main jet from 75 to 90 and have a top speed over 50 mph. Not bad for a 50cc. Also the exhaust us distributed by Genu...

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The variator washer must be removed or I doubt it would do over 40 mph.

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May start off with one as found one for a good price, a 90 main jet, and Dr. Pulley sliders, low budget and the Malossi is much like the Prima.

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I'm not aware of any. If you want more than 11hp like I do I bought a Yamaha 155 S max which makes almost 15. Of course it weighs more but handles well, has superior brakes and is good to 75mph.. Hard to beat the Buddy for what it is, a tiny, agile, fun scooter that is quick.

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I'd put a -1 tooth front sprocket, 13 vs 14 for better acceleration and less downshifting. Worked for me. Yoshimura has a really nice exhaust system that bolts up easily. Did both to my Grom. No remap required. If it looks like a little devil, it should act like one. Cheap fun!

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The 170i is a 2 valve engine. The fuel injection makes it run great hot or cold. To go fast with the Genuine brand buy a Blur 220i.
Or enjoy the Buddy for what it is, fun, reliable, unique.

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I think Scooterworks and Genuine are related. This kit is for the Buddy and RH50. Includes Prima expansion chamber, main jets, roller weights, and contra spring. Anyone try it? Seems it should save some trial and error expenses.

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I owned one. Top speed 45 mph, crude 4 speed transmission. About 7 hp. You are shifting gears all the time.

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Unless you ditch the air box, install a full exhaust system, and install a big bore kit, you don't need a FI controller.

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I haven't bought a new battery in 10 years with multiple bikes. If I don't ride more tha a few miles at a time, I hook it up once a month. If I don't ride at all in the Winter, I just leave it connected. I never overcharges and I never remove the battery.

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Still learning

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Just sold my Buddy 170i to a very happy buyer. Got a good deal on a Yamaha S max and bought it. Got my refund check and will get a RH50 de restricted Monday. I love 2 strokes. From my first Yamaha AT1MX, to my friends X6 Hustler. Guess I'll void my warranty on the RH with a stage one kit sold by Sco...

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All I know is I'm getting the exact same 59.8 GPS confirmed top speed as I was getting with the Hooli's stock exhaust. Very disappointing. Been thinking about getting the Scooterworks performance transmission kit installed but I don't want to be doubly disappointed. I'll probably just stay with wha...

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Sold mine only because I wanted a change, the S max I bought is heavier, but the brakes are much better, I did the Ncy exhaust and Dr. Pulley 11g sliders and it was noisy,fun, and quick to about 40. Fact is nothing I did increased its 11 HP. The Smax makes 14.8 and revs to 9500 rpm, probably 2000 rp...

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I have a 170i with 700 miles. Bought it as new but non current model. Asking $1900 but I'm in Virginia. I love it but I go through scooters and motorcycles like a crazed maniac, always ready for a new one. Just bought a Yamaha S max. Just getting old (67) and trying to ride everything. God for the d...

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The Buddy hits 40 in a city block. Top speed is 62. I love it. The S max is for longer rides at higher speeds, up to 75 so cruising at 55 it's not working as hard. I am disappointed the Yamaha, though liquid cooled, has no spin on oil filter, just the crude spring and mesh debris catcher. My guess i...

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I've owned the Buddy 170 for a year. Great city scooter. Just got the Smax. The riding position is similar, it weighs more, but you get front and rear disc brakes, a higher seat height. The Buddy is best in the city, after a Ncy exhaust and 11g Dr Pulley sliders, it hauls ass up to 40 mph. The Yamah...

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The American Motorcyclist Association has a link if you go to their website there is a link to the trade regulators involved. Just do it!

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All carbureted scooters have starting problems if they sit long due to ethanol in our gas. Fuel injected bikes don't have this issue. As far as a kickstarer on the 170, if your battery was low it would not start with a kickstarer as the fuel pump and CPU need 12.6 volts for the engine to start.

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It could be as simple as a bad tank of gasoline, especially if it's been sitting a while and you don't fill up the tank every couple of weeks. I would think it is ready for a valve adjustment. Never heard of CVT problems at that low mileage. Hope you sort it out,

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I'd use Dawn liquid dishwashing detergent.

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11 grams. I replaced mine with Dr,Pulley same weight for better acceleration and maintaining speed on hills. Top speed unaffected.

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Unbelievable Lambretta 150. Google photos the scooter from the who's Quadrophenia on the Wall Street Jounal. It just sold at auction for $36000. Me I'm keeping my Buddy 170i but thinking about a sissy bar and more mirrors!

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Bought both the Buddy and the Kymco on their site. They were new but had been sitting in the dealer showroom about 2 years so they were ready to deal. Still had new warranty and did my own tax and title work. Dealers were 100 miles away and they even delivered both no charge. Or I would find a frien...

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I own a 170i Buddy. Not good 2 up. Not good at 65 mph on the highway with its little 10" wheels that make it perfect in town. Owned a Kymco people Gt300i, great on the highway but cumbersome in the city, I've read the Yamaha Smax is cabable at both, if you aren't put off by the Sportbike stylin...

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